本期节目讨论了亲密关系在当今社会中扮演的角色，以及它如何成为解决孤独和浅薄的答案。嘉宾们分享了他们在亲密关系方面的个人经历和见解，探讨了亲密关系与自我边界、身体感知、集体意识和风险承担之间的关系。他们还强调了在当今时代，拥抱身体化的概念化和重新获得身体的玩耍能力的重要性。

👨‍👩‍👧‍👦 **亲密关系：打破自我与他者之间的界限** 亲密关系被视为打破自我与他者之间界限的过程。通过亲密关系，我们能够超越自身的局限，与他人建立更深层次的连接。嘉宾们分享了他们各自在亲密关系中获得的深刻体验，以及如何通过这种连接来理解和超越自我。 例如，Euvie Ivanova分享了她在参加Emerge会议时，感受到的集体亲密感。这种集体意识的体验，让她意识到个人身份之外的更广阔的连接。而Bonnitta Roy则强调了亲密关系中身体感知的重要性，她认为通过身体的感受和体验，我们能够更深刻地理解彼此，并建立更真实的连接。

🧠 **身体感知：通往真相的桥梁** 身体感知被视为通往真相的桥梁。嘉宾们认为，我们的身体能够感知到我们意识无法察觉的信息，这些信息能够帮助我们更深刻地理解自己和他人。通过关注身体的感受和反应，我们可以识别出潜意识的模式和信念，并打破限制性的思维模式。 Bonnitta Roy在节目中分享了她在Monastic Academy的隐修体验，她认为通过冥想和觉察练习，能够打开身体的感知能力，让我们更深刻地理解自身和周围的世界。她还提到了“真相感”的躯体标记，即身体对真实信息的自然反应，这种反应能够帮助我们辨别真假，并做出更明智的决策。

🤝 **集体意识：超越个体局限** 集体意识被视为超越个体局限的途径。嘉宾们认为，通过与他人的连接，我们可以获得更广阔的视角，并打破自我中心的局限。集体意识能够帮助我们理解复杂的问题，并找到更有效的解决方案。 Euvie Ivanova分享了她在FutureThinkers.org的经历，她认为通过与志同道合的人建立连接，能够共同创造更美好的未来。Bonnitta Roy则提到了Dunbar's Number，即人类能够维持稳定关系的人数上限。她认为，通过构建更小的、更紧密的群体，我们可以建立更深层次的连接，并共同创造更强大的力量。

🚀 **风险承担：拥抱不确定性** 风险承担被视为个人成长和社会进步的关键。嘉宾们认为，只有敢于走出舒适区，拥抱不确定性，我们才能突破自我局限，并创造新的可能性。亲密关系本身就是一个充满风险的过程，它需要我们放下防御，敞开心扉，与他人建立更深层次的连接。 Jim在节目中分享了他早期参加GameB会议的经历，他认为在那个充满未知和挑战的环境中，他们敢于提出大胆的想法，并尝试不同的方法，最终取得了突破性的成果。Bonnitta Roy则强调了“危险思想”的重要性，她认为只有敢于挑战传统观念，我们才能找到新的解决方案。

🤸 **身体的玩耍：重拾生命活力** 身体的玩耍被视为重拾生命活力的重要途径。嘉宾们认为，在当今快节奏的社会中，我们往往忽视了身体的感受和需求，导致身心分离，失去生命活力。通过重拾身体的玩耍能力，我们可以重新连接身体和心灵，体验生命的美好。 Bonnitta Roy在节目中提到了“身体的感知”，她认为通过身体的感受和体验，我们可以更深刻地理解自己和他人，并建立更真实的连接。Jim则强调了“风险承担”的重要性，他认为只有敢于走出舒适区，拥抱不确定性，我们才能突破自我局限，并创造新的可能性。

❤️ **亲密关系：超越依恋** 亲密关系被视为超越依恋的一种连接方式。嘉宾们认为，亲密关系并非仅仅是一种依恋关系，而是建立在相互尊重、理解和信任基础上的深层次连接。这种连接能够帮助我们超越自身的局限，并共同创造更美好的未来。 Euvie Ivanova分享了她在FutureThinkers.org的经历，她认为通过与志同道合的人建立连接，能够共同创造更美好的未来。Bonnitta Roy则提到了“集体意识”，她认为通过与他人的连接，我们可以获得更广阔的视角，并打破自我中心的局限。

Jim talks with Euvie Ivanova and Bonnitta Roy about a recent Twitter exchange exploring intimacy as "both the problem and the solution"...Jim talks with Euvie Ivanova and Bonnitta Roy about a recent Twitter exchange exploring intimacy as "both the problem and the solution." They discuss the context of the exchange, today's shallowness & loneliness epidemics, Bonnitta's recent retreat at the Monastic Academy, intimacy as the breakdown of self-other boundaries, somatic markers of the truth-sense, porous membranes, "actual thought rather than simulated thinking," Euvie's experience of collective intimacy at an Emerge conference, Dunbar numbers & nested group coherences, embodied conceptualization & why it's needed now, Jim's experience at early GameB meetings, intimacy & risk-taking, the limits of pro-sociality, speaking dangerous ideas, regaining bodily play, attachment as a feature not a bug, why intimacy isn't attachment, and much more. Episode Transcript JRS EP17 - Bonnitta Roy on Process Thinking and Complexity Currents 018: The Future Thinkers Smart Village The Pop-Up School (Substack) by Bonnitta Roy Earth Mother (Substack) by Euvie Ivanova Future Thinkers Monastic Academy Diana Fosha (Wikipedia)Euvie Ivanova is a media producer, speaker, educator, and mama. She is the co-founder of FutureThinkers.org, a podcast and community dedicated to the evolution of society, technology, and consciousness towards a regenerative future. She is currently in the early stages of building a regenerative village in Canada.Bonnitta Roy teaches insight practices for individuals who are developing meta-cognitive skills, and hosts collective insight retreats to help groups break away from limiting patterns of thought. Her teaching highlights the embodied, affective and perceptual aspects of the core self, and the non-egoic potentials from which subtle sensing, intuition and insight emerge. In 2021 she started the POP-UP School to bring her teaching to a larger audience. Through her company, C-LABS,  Bonnitta is developing applications that can visualize changing patterns as teams work through complex problems. Her research shows how simple but powerful protocols that underlie these patterns can be used to represent various dispositional states of human systems. Bonnitta is the author of the popular Medium publication Our Future at Work. She is an associate editor of Integral Review where you can also find her articles on process approaches to consciousness, perception, and metaphysics.