本期节目探讨了美国从阿富汗撤军的真相与代价。节目嘉宾Jonathan Schroden，一位长期关注阿富汗局势的战略顾问，分析了美国撤军的背景、决策过程以及对未来国际关系的影响。他指出，美国撤军不仅是一场人道主义和政治灾难，更反映了美国战略重心的转移。节目还探讨了塔利班的战术、阿富汗政府的腐败以及恐怖组织的威胁等问题，为听众提供更全面的视角，帮助理解当前局势的复杂性。

🤔美国从阿富汗撤军是一场人道主义和政治灾难，也反映了美国战略重心的转移。撤军决策的背后是复杂的利益权衡和战略考量，包括美国对阿富汗的战略目标、撤军成本、以及未来国际关系的影响等。

😈塔利班的胜利并非偶然，他们善于利用情报战、信息战和游击战，并利用了阿富汗政府内部的腐败和民众的不信任。塔利班的战术和战略值得分析，以更好地理解这场战争的复杂性。

🌎美国撤军对国际关系产生了重大影响。中国和俄罗斯等国家可能趁机扩大在阿富汗的影响力，而巴基斯坦则在其中扮演了重要角色。美国撤军对全球反恐形势也产生了影响，恐怖组织可能会利用阿富汗作为基地，对美国和其他国家构成威胁。

💰美国在阿富汗的战争投入了巨大的资源和人力，但最终却以失败告终。这场战争的失败也反映了美国在海外干预的局限性，以及美国外交政策的不足。

😔美国撤军对阿富汗人民造成了巨大的伤害，也引发了对人权和难民问题的担忧。美国有责任帮助阿富汗人民渡过难关，并承担起国际责任。

💪美国撤军事件提醒我们，战争的代价是高昂的，而和平与稳定需要各方的共同努力。

🌍美国撤军事件对国际关系和全球安全局势产生了深远的影响，需要我们认真思考和关注。

In Episode 206 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Jonathan Schroden, Director of the Countering Threats & Challenges Program at CNA. Schroden has served as a strategic advisor on Afghanistan to the US military since 2008, ranging from commands in-country to operational commands outside of Afghanistan, as well as strategic elements in the Pentagon, including the Office of the Secretary of Defense.

In the first part of today’s conversation, Jonathan and Demetri examine the lens through which the public has become informed about the events unfolding in Kabul over the last two weeks and the public narrative that has quickly formed around what is truly a humanitarian and political disaster.  

The question however that has been lost in all of this is why the United States is leaving Afghanistan in the first place, the cost-calculation behind the decision to withdraw, and how this decision fits into a broader strategic shift in the focus of American Foreign policy.

In the second half the two focus on the specific elements that contributed to America’s defeat in Afghanistan, from the adroit battlefield tactics of the Taliban and their use of commercial technologies to fight an information war to massive corruption on the part of America’s partners in the Afghan government. We also look at the ecosystem of terrorist organizations operating in-country and the international threat they pose to Americans, as well as the geopolitical implications of America’s withdrawal for countries like China and Russia, as well as the supporting role played by Pakistan to aid the Taliban in its 20-year resistance against the US occupation.

The goal of this episode, as well as our recent episode with Laurel Miller, is to help you fill in the gaps and put together some of the important pieces that have gone missing in what has largely been a unanimous condemnation of the President’s actions. By the end of this episode, you should be able to understand clearly (1) what went wrong, (2) why it went wrong, (3) and the larger, longer-term implications for the tragic events that are currently unfolding.

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Episode Recorded on 08/24/2021