本期播客节目邀请了作家兼研究员Julia Ebner进行深度访谈。Julia是战略对话研究所的高级常驻研究员，著有几本探讨极端主义网络社会动态的书籍，包括《愤怒：伊斯兰极端主义和极右翼极端主义的恶性循环》、《隐秘：极端主义者的秘密社交生活》以及最近出版的《主流化：极端主义者是如何接管的》。Julia还最近完成了在牛津社会凝聚力研究中心的博士学位，并一直在开发新颖的语言分析方法，以帮助识别极端主义材料和宣言中暴力的心理指标。她还与我们常驻认知人类学家共同发表了一些论文。在播客中，我们涵盖了从影响激进化因素、Julia在Maajid Nawaz组织工作的时间、阴谋论的心理学以及她作为卧底调查员的经历等一系列话题。

🤔 **影响激进化因素:** Julia Ebner分享了她对影响激进化的各种因素的见解，包括个人经历、社会孤立、对不公正的感知以及对身份认同的渴望。她强调，极端主义者往往利用这些因素来招募和操控个人，并创造一个吸引人的叙述，让他们感到自己属于一个共同体。

🕵️‍♀️ **卧底调查工作:** Julia Ebner详细描述了她作为卧底调查员的经历，她深入到极端主义网络中，以了解他们的运作方式、传播策略以及对成员的影响。她的工作揭示了极端主义者如何利用网络平台来传播宣传、招募新成员以及策划暴力活动。

🧠 **阴谋论的心理学:** Julia Ebner探讨了阴谋论的心理学，强调了这些理论对人们的吸引力以及它们如何能够导致极端主义行为。她解释说，阴谋论为人们提供了一种解释复杂事件的简单方法，并赋予他们一种控制感，即使这些理论是错误的。

💪 **对抗极端主义:** Julia Ebner强调了对抗极端主义的必要性，并提出了一些策略，包括教育公众、促进批判性思维、加强社区关系以及打击在线极端主义。她认为，通过采取这些措施，我们可以有效地减轻极端主义的影响，并防止它在社会中蔓延。

📢 **主流化趋势:** Julia Ebner的最新著作《主流化：极端主义者是如何接管的》深入探讨了极端主义思想如何渗透到主流社会，并分析了极端主义者利用社交媒体和其他平台来传播他们的信息和招募新成员的方式。她警告说，如果我们不采取措施来对抗这种趋势，极端主义可能会对我们的民主制度构成严重威胁。

On this week's episode, we have an extended interview with author and researcher, Julia Ebner. Julia is a Senior Resident Research Fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue and has written a series of books exploring the social dynamics of extremist networks, including The Rage: the Vicious Circle of Islamist and Far-Right Extremism, Going Dark: the Secret Social Lives of Extremists, and most recently Going Mainstream: How Extremists Are Taking Over.

Julia also recently completed her DPhil at Oxford's Centre for Studies of Social Cohesion and has been developing novel linguistic analyses to help identify the psychological indicators of violence in extremist material and manifestos. She has also endured publishing some papers with our resident cognitive anthropologist.

In the podcast, we cover a range of topics from the factors impacting radicalisation, Julia's time working for Maajid Nawaz's organisation, the psychology of conspiracy theories, and her experiences as an undercover investigator.

Also on this week's episode, we dive into a recent episode of the DarkHorse to explore the Alex Jones' level conspiracies that Bret and Heather have recently been promoting about the horrific events in Israel. You might imagine it would be difficult to make such a tragic event about COVID dissidents and vaccines but if so you are underestimating the InfoHorse hosts.

For a palette cleanser enjoy an extended review-of-reviews and some marathon shoutouts.

Links

The Guardian: The Big Idea- is it too late to stop extremism taking over politics?Going Dark: The Secret Social Lives of Extremists | Julia Ebner | Talks at GoogleJulia's Recent Book- Going Mainstream: How Extremists Are Taking OverRegressive Left Media: Tommy Robinson and Maajid Nawaz: Sleeping with the EnemyBad Stats thread with DarkHorse clips from episode 195Andy Last's Beyond Synth PodcastDTG Shedding Light on the DarkHorse: A Mini ReviewEbner, J., Kavanagh, C., & Whitehouse, H. (2023). Measuring socio-psychological drivers of extreme violence in online terrorist manifestos: an alternative linguistic risk assessment model. Journal of Policing, Intelligence and Counter Terrorism, 1-19.Ebner, J., Kavanagh, C., & Whitehouse, H. (2022). Is there a language of terrorists? a comparative manifesto analysis. Studies in Conflict & Terrorism, 1-27.