特里斯坦·哈里斯，一位前谷歌设计伦理学家，在访谈中探讨了科技伦理、注意力经济、广告定向、算法影响、信息战等议题。他以自身经历和专业知识，揭示了科技公司如何利用心理机制操纵用户注意力，并呼吁建立更人性的科技发展方向。

🎯 **科技伦理与设计：**特里斯坦·哈里斯从儿时的魔术师经历中汲取灵感，将设计伦理融入科技领域。他曾在斯坦福大学的“说服性技术实验室”工作，并担任谷歌的设计伦理学家，对科技如何影响人类行为有着深刻的理解。

🧠 **注意力经济的困境：**哈里斯指出，科技公司为了获取用户注意力，不断利用算法和心理机制进行精准定向，导致用户时间被碎片化，社会信任被侵蚀，甚至引发极端主义。他认为，这种“注意力经济”模式需要改变，需要重新思考科技发展的方向。

🌍 **信息战与社会保护：**哈里斯强调了信息战的威胁，并呼吁采取措施保护社会免受虚假信息和深度伪造的侵害。他认为，需要加强对社交媒体匿名性的监管，并鼓励科技公司承担社会责任。

💡 **未来的希望：**尽管面临挑战，哈里斯对未来依然抱有希望。他认为，一些科技公司已经开始重视用户的时间和福祉，例如开发专注于冥想和时间管理的应用。他相信，通过共同努力，可以创造一个更加人性的科技未来。

🤝 **合作与行动：**哈里斯呼吁科技公司、政府和个人共同行动，推动科技伦理的发展，构建一个更加公正、安全、可持续的科技社会。他认为，只有通过合作，才能解决科技带来的挑战，并释放科技的巨大潜力。

🌟 **时间管理与专注力：**哈里斯强调了“时间管理”和“专注力”的重要性。他认为，我们应该珍惜自己的时间，避免被科技公司操纵，并努力培养专注力，不被各种信息和诱惑分散注意力。

📊 **数据透明与用户权利：**哈里斯呼吁科技公司提高数据透明度，让用户了解自己的数据如何被使用。他还强调，用户应该拥有对自身数据的控制权，并能够选择如何使用自己的数据。

🌐 **全球合作与共同责任：**哈里斯认为，解决科技伦理问题需要全球合作。他呼吁各国政府共同制定规范，并鼓励科技公司在全球范围内负起社会责任。

🚀 **科技发展与社会价值：**哈里斯强调，科技发展应该以社会价值为导向，而不是仅仅追求利润。他认为，科技公司应该将社会责任融入到他们的业务中，并积极参与解决社会问题。

🙏 **人性和科技的平衡：**哈里斯认为，科技应该服务于人类，而不是反过来。他呼吁科技界保持人性，并努力将科技的力量用于创造一个更美好的未来。

Tristan Harris & Jim talk about his background in design ethics, dangers of ad targeting, game theory, time well spent, the global information war, trends to be optimistic about, and much more...Tristan Harris & Jim start by talking about how Tristan’s career & education in design ethics are informed by being a magician in his youth. They then go on to talk about his experience at the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab, the history of psychologically informed business, the power of personalized digital/AI targeting, how algorithms can radicalize us & erode societal trust, the game theory of an attention economy, the breakdown of sense-making, impacts of ad-supported business models & possible alternatives, applying the fiduciary model to advertising & potential impacts taxing ads, political & social issues that come from rapid tech innovation, what’s needed for business to orient towards time well spent, the global information war & how we might protect societies from it, deep fakes, social media anonymity, what Tristan is optimistic about and much more.Episode TranscriptMentions & Recommendations Center for Humane Technology Tristan’s Podcast, Your Undivided Attention B.J. Fogg Free: The Future of a Radical Price by Chris Anderson Tristan’s Congressional Testimony This Person Does Not Exist Tristan’s shout-outs of positive examples: Siempo, Headspace, Waking Up, Calm.com, Letter.wiki, vTaiwan, Artery, HipcampTristan Harris is the Co-Founder & Executive Director of the Center for Humane Technology, and the Co-Host of the podcast, “Your Undivided Attention.” He was called the “closest thing Silicon Valley has to a conscience” by The Atlantic magazine, Tristan was the former Design Ethicist at Google. He is a world expert on how technology steers us all, leaving Google to engage the issue publicly. Tristan spent over a decade understanding subtle psychological forces, from his childhood as a magician, to working with the Stanford Persuasive Technology Lab, to his role as CEO of Apture, which was acquired by Google. His work on the attention economy started in 2013, when he created a slide deck within Google that went viral, warning about the technology industry’s arms race to capture human attention and the moral responsibility companies have for the ways they restructure society. Tristan’s work has been featured on TED, The Atlantic, 60 Minutes, The New York Times, The Associated Press, Wall Street Journal. and many more. Tristan has briefed Heads of State, technology company CEOs, and members of U.S. Congress about the attention economy.