少点错误 2024年08月10日
Practical advice for secure virtual communication post easy AI voice-cloning?
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作者看到一个疑似真实的视频后,对网络交流中的AI诈骗产生担忧,考虑建立防深度伪造的安全系统,并探讨了几种解决方案及存在的问题。

🎈作者看到一个不知背景及真实性的视频,虽认为其不是AI骗局,但仍感不安,由此想到建立防深度伪造的安全系统。

📄提出用两张纸写相同的20个高熵句子作为一次性密码的方案,该方案保密性好,但存在可写句子数量有限及纸张易丢失损坏的问题。

💻提出用两个树莓派计算相同哈希函数的方案,此方案的问题是作者不知如何设置树莓派,且系统若出问题需亲自去修复。

😕指出两种方案都面临在紧急情况下可能无法使用的问题,如对方称在外地丢钱包急需帮助,且作者不知如何解决这一问题。

Published on August 9, 2024 5:32 PM GMT

So, I saw this video https://www.reddit.com/r/slatestarcodex/comments/1enq52b/a_clip_from_the_gpt4o_safety_card_where_the_voice/

And, I don't know the context, or if it is even real, but it seems believable on priors, and certainly something people could deliberately create with current technology. Still, the video game me the spooks.

 A few weeks ago, my aunt messaged my mother, encouraging her to sign up for a crypto exchange with a referral. They also had a few messages back and fourth, with seemingly natural conversation. My mom (and this makes me somewhat proud, as my mom is not that technologically literate) asked me if this was an AI attempting to trick her. My dad was confident it was. I was (worryingly) not able to give her a straight answer. We called her on facetime, and she confirmed it was her, and that she had been told by her son (my cousin) to use it. Intellectually the video made me confident this wasn't an AI scheme, but even after that short video exchange, I had an uneasy feeling.

All this to say, I'm seriously considering setting up a secure physical system for making online communication with people I know deepfake-proof. Have anyone tried to do this?

The simplest solution I can think of is to take two pieces of paper. Write down the same 20 high-entropy sentences on each of them, numbered. Then give one of them to a partner. Then you can ask them for one of the sentences if you are suspicious, or they you. Afterwards you cross out the sentence you use.

This has the advantage of being watertight if you use a good source of randomness in generating the sentences, which is easy enough to get. It has the disadvantage of being limited in the number of sentences you can bother to write down. And also pieces of paper being easily lost/broken. I haven't tried to I don't know if this would really be an issue. If you'd use the pad 20x/day, or only 2x / year.

Another solution is to have two raspberry pis computing the same hash function. Then you can tell the person you're speaking with "type in 158327 and click enter, what is the response?", then you can type in the number on your raspberry pi, and check if it is the same.

This has the issue that I don't know how to set up a raspberry pi, although I could probably learn pretty quickly. If the system breaks I'd have to travel to fix it, which would be a big hassle. 

The biggest issue with both of these is that I'd imagine scams leveraging deepfakes would leverage stressful situations, where It'd be believable not be able to use the one time pad, "HMYS!!! IM IN HONG KONG AND I LOST MY WALLET!!!! IM SCREWED, I NEED YOU TO HELP ME PAY FOR A PLANE TICKET BACK HOME AND TALK TO THE FINNISH EMBASSY SO I CAN GET MY ID. I DON'T HAVE MY ONE TIME PAD, I'M REALLY SORRY I KNOW I SHOULD USE IT IN SITUATIONS LIKE THESE BUT I LOST IT!!!!!!!"

This I don't know how to fix. One thought is to maybe fold it into a tiny piece of paper and put it in jewlery that could be worn. 

Tell me if there is some obvious better way I'm missing. 



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