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Against Bravery Debates [Classic]
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Reddit上存在一种“勇敢”辩论的传统,当有人以一种似乎带来新颖异端观点的语气重复陈词滥调时,人们会在评论中回应“太勇敢了”。这种辩论围绕谁是勇敢地持有非正统立场面对迫害,谁是在捍卫流行现状并试图压制异见者。这种讨论极具毒性,容易让对话变得糟糕和愤怒。

📢勇敢辩论的起源:Reddit上一种回应陈词滥调的传统,以讽刺的方式表达对所谓新颖观点的质疑。

😠辩论的毒性:这种讨论往往导致对话变得激烈,双方互相指责对方胆怯或盲目追随。

💡背后的心理:可能源于地位追求,标榜自己是摆脱了普遍同质化的原创思考者,而对方则是恐惧的追随者。

🌪️情绪的爆发:当一方自认为在勇敢地捍卫不受欢迎但正确的立场时,对方的轻蔑态度会引发强烈的不满和愤怒。

There’s a tradition on Reddit that when somebody repeats some cliche in a tone that makes it sound like she believes she is bringing some brilliant and heretical insight – like “I know I’m going to get downvoted for this, but believe we should have less government waste!” – people respond “SO BRAVE” in the comments. That’s what I mean by bravery debates. Discussions over who is bravely holding a nonconformist position in the face of persecution, and who is a coward defending the popular status quo and trying to silence dissenters.

These are frickin’ toxic. I don’t have a great explanation for why. It could be a status thing – saying that you’re the original thinker who has cast off the Matrix of omnipresent conformity and your opponent is a sheeple (sherson?) too fearful to realize your insight. Or it could be that, as the saying goes, “everyone is fighting a hard battle”, and telling someone else they’ve got it easy compared to you is just about the most demeaning thing you can do, especially when you’re wrong.

But the possible explanations aren’t the point. The point is that, empirically, starting a bravery debate is the quickest way to make sure that a conversation becomes horrible and infuriating. I’m generalizing from my own experience here, but one of the least pleasant philosophical experiences is thinking you’re bravely defending an unpopular but correct position, facing the constant persecution and prejudice from your more numerous and extremely smug opponents day in and day out without being worn-down … only to have one of your opponents offhandedly refer to how brave they are for resisting the monolithic machine that you and the rest of the unfairly-biased-toward-you culture have set up against them. You just want to scream NO YOU’RE WRONG SEFSEFILASDJO:IALJAOI:JA:O>ILFJASL:KFJ

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