本期 Hidden Forces 播客邀请了比特币最大主义者 Pierre Rochard，深入探讨了比特币的基本协议、供应计划、治理、去中心化、效用和第一层可扩展性的挑战。对话涵盖了无政府资本主义、奥地利经济学和硬通货理论在比特币社区中的作用，并比较了比特币与黄金。此外，还讨论了超比特币化，包括比特币对美元和其他法定货币的投机攻击机制，以及政府带来的生存威胁。Pierre 相信比特币将克服所有障碍，成为 21 世纪的全球货币标准。

🤔 **比特币的基本协议和供应计划：** Pierre Rochard 深入探讨了比特币的基本协议，包括其供应计划、治理机制和去中心化的本质。他强调了比特币的稀缺性和不可更改的性质，认为这使其成为一种理想的货币。他解释了比特币如何通过其去中心化的特性，不受政府控制和干预，并为个人赋予了经济自由。Pierre 还讨论了比特币的可扩展性挑战，并介绍了第二层解决方案，例如闪电网络，以提高其交易速度和效率。

💰 **比特币与黄金的比较：** Pierre 将比特币与黄金进行了比较，认为它们都具有硬通货的属性，并探讨了它们在现代经济体系中的作用。他指出，比特币与黄金相比，具有更高效、更易于转让和更易于验证的优势。Pierre 认为，比特币的去中心化特性使其在抵御政府干预和通货膨胀方面具有独特优势。

🌎 **超比特币化与比特币的未来：** Pierre 详细阐述了超比特币化的概念，并探讨了比特币如何成为全球货币标准的可能性。他分析了比特币在面对政府干预和投机攻击时的应对策略，并预测了比特币将如何克服这些挑战，最终成为全球通用的货币。Pierre 还分享了他对比特币未来发展的看法，并强调了其在去中心化金融、数字资产和全球经济中的重要作用。

🎙️ **其他主题：** 除了上述主题之外，对话还涵盖了货币价值理论、林迪效应、格雷欣法则等相关议题。Pierre 分享了他对这些理论的见解，并探讨了它们如何与比特币的未来发展相关联。

⚠️ **免责声明：** 播客中提供的信息仅供参考，不应被视为财务建议，也不应作为财务决策的依据。

In Episode 75 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Pierre Rochard, a self-ascribed Bitcoin Maximalist who co-founded the Satoshi Nakamoto Institute and who has been a researcher, investor, and software developer in the space since early 2013. In addition to developing Bitcoin software, Pierre is an outspoken advocate for Bitcoin's decentralized governance, the operator of one of the largest Lightning Network routing hubs, and the host of the Nodded Bitcoin Podcast.  

This conversation is broken into two parts. The first deals with fundamental questions concerning bitcoin’s base layer protocol, the supply schedule, governance, decentralization, utility, and challenges to layer 1 scalability. Included in this first part is a fascinating conversation about anarcho-capitalism and the role of Austrian economics and theories of hard money in the bitcoin community with comparisons made between bitcoin and gold.   

The second part of the conversation, which is available as a 40-minute overtime segment for our subscribers, consists of a prolonged series of discussions on hyperbitcoinization, including the mechanics of a speculative attack by bitcoin against the US dollar and other fiat currencies. Also discussed are the existential threats posed by governments and how Pierre believes that bitcoin will manage to overcome all of them on its path towards becoming the global currency standard in the 21st century. Demetri ends by asking Pierre for his predictions and forecasts, not only for bitcoin but for the market more broadly, including a conversation on how he’s positioning himself for the start of the next bull phase in crypto.  

Additional topics include monetary theories of value, the Lindy effect, Gresham’s law, and layer 2 solutions for scaling bitcoin as a viable medium of exchange.

As a reminder, all information provided in this podcast is for informational purposes only and should not be viewed as financial advice, nor should it be relied upon as the basis for financial decisions.

Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas

Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou

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