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Highlights From The Comments On "Crazy Like Us"
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文章探讨了古代地中海和欧洲中世纪的战士是否像现代士兵一样经历了 PTSD,指出现有史料中几乎没有证据支持这一点,并对可能的解释进行了分析。

📜 文章提出,尽管网络上有许多非专业历史学家声称古代战士经历了 PTSD,但通过对大量一手资料的阅读,作者认为古代地中海和中世纪欧洲的战士并不像现代士兵那样经历 PTSD。

🔍 作者指出,如果带着寻找特定现象的目的去研究史料,很容易找到支持自己观点的证据。但是,这种证据往往是片面的,不足以证明古代战士确实经历了 PTSD。

🤷‍♂️ 对于古代战士为何没有 PTSD 的疑问,文章提出了几种可能的解释,包括可能存在但没有被记载,或者他们并不认为这是一种需要记录的现象。

📚 文章强调,虽然古代文献中不乏对战争造成的死亡、俘虏、难民、伤口等悲剧的描述,但关于 PTSD 的直接证据却极为罕见,这暗示了古代战士可能并没有经历这种现代常见的心理状况。

🔬 作者认为,我们不能完全排除史料中存在遗漏的可能性,但考虑到古代文献中对战争悲剧的详尽描述,这种遗漏似乎不太可能。因此,更合理的假设是古代战士并没有经历 PTSD。

https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/highlights-from-the-comments-on-crazy

Some good discussion of PTSD, culminating in a link to the ACOUP blog, which says:

I cannot speak for all pre-modern, ancient or medieval armies. But for the periods where I have read a wide chunk of the primary source material, I’d say there is vanishingly little evidence that people in the ancient Mediterranean or medieval Europe experienced PTSD from combat experience in the way that modern soldiers do.

That is often not the impression that you would get from a quick google search (though it does seem to be the general consensus of the range of ancient military historians I know) and that goes back to arguments ex silentio. A quick google search will turn up any number of articles written by folks who are generally not professional historians declaring that PTSD was an observed phenomenon in the deep past, citing the same small handful of debatable examples. But one thing you learn very rapidly as a historian is that if you go into a large evidence-base looking for something, you will find it.

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I think the evidence strongly suggests that ancient combatants did not experience PTSD as we do now. The problem is that the evidence of silence leads us with few tools with which to answer why. One answer might be that it existed and they do not tell us – because it was considered shameful or cowardly, perhaps. Except that they do tell us about other cowardly or shameful things. And the loss and damage of war – death, captivity, refugees, wounds, the lot of it – are prominent motifs in Greek, Roman and European Medieval literature. War is not uniformly white-washed in these texts – not every medieval writer is Bertran. We can’t rule out some lacuna in the tradition, but given just how many wails and moans of grief and loss there are in the corpus it seems profoundly unlikely. I think we have to assume that it isn’t in the sources because they did not experience it or at least did not recognize the experience of it.

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