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Why Did the Future Arrive First in Russia? | Peter Pomerantsev
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本期节目中,主持人Demetri Kofinas与英国记者、前电视制作人Peter Pomerantsev探讨了西方社会正在经历的信仰体系和共同神话的瓦解,以及这种现象为何导致许多人对世界越来越感到愤世嫉俗,对未来漠不关心。Peter在俄罗斯生活和工作期间首次见证了这种现象,并在其第一本书《真相不存在,但一切皆有可能》中进行了描述。在书出版后不久,他开始注意到书中提到的某些现象——愤世嫉俗、超现实感、怀旧情绪以及他所描述的“侵略性冷漠”——在西方国家出现。他开始思考“为什么未来首先出现在俄罗斯?”。本期节目试图回答这个问题,因为俄罗斯在苏联后期和后苏联早期的一些力量,如今也在西方社会中发挥作用。如果我们想要了解当对机构的信任完全崩溃,当身份和意义的根基概念消失殆尽,当任何独立的真理标准变得如此难以捉摸,以至于人们愿意相信任何东西,而唯一能够将我们团结起来的是原始的、不受约束的力量时,未来会是什么样子,那么我们不仅要了解俄罗斯在过去几十年中所走的道路,还要尽一切努力避免走得更远。这条路只会通往一个地方,那就是一个后现代的、压迫性的社会,它利用民主资本主义的语言和制度来实现专制目的。

🤔 **信仰体系和共同神话的瓦解:**西方社会正在经历信仰体系和共同神话的瓦解,导致许多人对世界越来越感到愤世嫉俗,对未来漠不关心。这种现象最初在俄罗斯出现,并逐渐蔓延到西方国家。

🧐 **俄罗斯模式的警示:**节目中探讨了俄罗斯在苏联后期和后苏联早期的一些力量,如今也在西方社会中发挥作用。如果西方社会继续沿着这条道路走下去,最终将会走向一个后现代的、压迫性的社会,它利用民主资本主义的语言和制度来实现专制目的。

⚠️ **未来走向的警示:**当对机构的信任完全崩溃,当身份和意义的根基概念消失殆尽,当任何独立的真理标准变得如此难以捉摸,以至于人们愿意相信任何东西,而唯一能够将我们团结起来的是原始的、不受约束的力量时,西方社会将走向何方?

🚀 **避免俄罗斯模式的路径:**节目强调了理解俄罗斯在过去几十年中所走的道路的重要性,并呼吁人们尽一切努力避免走上这条道路。

🤝 **共同寻找答案:**节目鼓励听众积极参与讨论,共同思考如何应对西方社会面临的挑战,避免走向俄罗斯模式。

🎙️ **节目信息:**本期节目由Hidden Forces的Demetri Kofinas主持,嘉宾为Peter Pomerantsev。

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In Episode 229 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with Peter Pomerantsev, a Soviet-born British journalist, former TV producer, and author about the break-down in belief systems and shared mythologies that we are experiencing in the West and why this has left so many people feeling increasingly cynical about the world and indifferent towards the future.

Peter was early in his diagnosis, having first experienced this phenomenon during his time living and working in Russia. It was not long after that experience and the publication of his first book “Nothing is True, But Everything Is Possible” that he began to notice some of the things that he wrote about in that book—the cynicism, the sense of surreality, the nostalgia, and what he described as an “aggressive apathy”—showing up in Western countries. And he began to ask himself the question, “Why did the future arrive first in Russia?”

This is the question that we seek to answer in today’s episode, because some of the same forces that were operational in the late-Soviet Union and in early post-Soviet Russia are at work in Western societies today. If we want to understand what the future might look like when trust in institutions has completely deteriorated, when grounding notions of identity and meaning have all but disappeared, when any independent standard of truth has become so elusive that people are willing to believe in anything and the only thing left to unify us is raw and unbridled power, then we would be wise to not only understand the path that Russia has followed in the last several decades but to do everything in our power to avoid following it any further. It leads to only one place and that is a postmodern, repressive society that uses the language and institutions of democratic capitalism for authoritarian ends.

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Episode Recorded on 01/14/2022

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