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Contra DeBoer On Movement Shell Games
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文章作者 Freddie deBoer 认为有效利他主义 (EA) 是一种“空壳游戏”,因为其目标过于普遍,几乎所有试图行善的人都认同这些目标。作者认为 EA 的核心价值观并不独特,而其独特之处却并不值得称赞。作者还批评了 EA 对动物福利、生存风险和人工智能等议题的关注,认为这些观点“愚蠢”。

🤔 **EA 的目标过于普遍:** 作者认为 EA 的目标“产生最大的善行”过于笼统,几乎所有试图行善的人都认同这一目标。因此,EA 的核心价值观并不独特,无法用其普遍的目标来评判其价值。

🧐 **EA 的独特之处并不值得称赞:** 作者认为 EA 对动物福利、生存风险和人工智能等议题的关注,并非其独特之处,而是其最具争议的观点。而这些观点在作者看来是“愚蠢”的。

🤨 **EA 的“空壳游戏”本质:** 作者认为 EA 的“空壳游戏”本质在于,其核心价值观并不独特,而其独特之处却并不值得称赞。因此,作者认为 EA 并非一种有价值的哲学或行动准则。

💡 **作者的批判性观点:** 作者认为 EA 的核心价值观与其他试图行善的人群并无区别,其独特之处却存在着争议。

🤔 **对作者观点的思考:** 作者的观点引发了对 EA 价值观的深入思考。EA 的目标是否过于普遍?其独特之处是否值得称赞?

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Followup to: In Continued Defense Of Effective Altruism

Freddie deBoer says effective altruism is “a shell game”:

Who could argue with that! But this summary also invites perhaps the most powerful critique: who could argue with that? That is to say, this sounds like so obvious and general a project that it can hardly denote a specific philosophy or project at all. The immediate response to such a definition, if you’re not particularly impressionable or invested in your status within certain obscure internet communities, should be to point out that this is an utterly banal set of goals that are shared by literally everyone who sincerely tries to act charitably . . . Every do-gooder I have ever known has thought of themselves as shining a light on problems that are neglected. So what?

Generating the most human good through moral action isn’t a philosophy; it’s an almost tautological statement of what all humans who try to act morally do. This is why I say that effective altruism is a shell game. That which is commendable isn’t particular to EA and that which is particular to EA isn’t commendable.

In other words, everyone agrees with doing good, so effective altruism can’t be judged on that. Presumably everyone agrees with supporting charities that cure malaria or whatever, so effective altruism can’t be judged on that. So you have to go to its non-widely-held beliefs to judge it, and those are things like animal suffering, existential risk, and AI. And (Freddie thinks) those beliefs are dumb. Therefore, effective altruism is bad.

(as always, I’ve tried to sum up the argument fairly, but read the original post to make sure.)

Here are some of my objections to Freddie’s point (I already posted some of this as comments on his post):

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/contra-deboer-on-movement-shell-games 

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