本期播客节目中，Nancy Hillis 和 Bruce Sawhill 讨论了复杂性科学和艺术之间的相似之处，包括涌现、秩序与混沌、运气等等。他们探讨了创新与模仿、打破规则、不可分割性、相变、组合学与约束、美学、过程导向与结果导向、简洁性、悖论、不确定性、涌现、在秩序与混沌边缘的航行、已知未知与未知未知、为运气腾出空间等等。

🤔 复杂性科学和艺术都包含涌现现象，即整体大于部分之和。例如，在艺术创作中，单个元素的组合可以产生意想不到的整体效果。而复杂性科学中，例如细胞的相互作用可以产生生物体的复杂行为。

🤯 复杂性科学和艺术都存在着秩序与混沌的边界，在不确定性和意外中蕴藏着创造力和可能性。艺术创作需要在规则和突破之间找到平衡，而复杂性科学研究也试图理解系统如何在秩序和混沌之间转换。

🍀 复杂性科学和艺术都承认运气的重要性。在艺术创作中，灵感和机遇的出现可能不可预知，而复杂性科学也承认随机性对系统演化的影响。

🎨 复杂性科学和艺术都强调过程的重要性。艺术创作是一个持续探索和实验的过程，而复杂性科学研究也强调系统演化的动态过程，而不是最终状态。

🧠 复杂性科学和艺术都涉及到认知和创造力。艺术创作需要艺术家运用想象力和创造力，而复杂性科学研究也需要科学家具备抽象思维能力和问题解决能力。

🧠 复杂性科学和艺术都包含着悖论。例如，艺术创作既需要遵循规则，又需要打破规则；复杂性科学研究也试图理解系统如何在看似矛盾的原则下运作。

🤔 复杂性科学和艺术都强调不可分割性。在艺术创作中，形式和内容是不可分割的；在复杂性科学中，系统中的各个部分是相互关联的，无法单独分析。

🚀 复杂性科学和艺术都包含着创新与模仿。艺术创作既需要借鉴前人的经验，又需要创造新的形式和内容；复杂性科学研究也需要在已有理论的基础上进行创新和发展。

Nancy Hillis & Bruce Sawhill talk to Jim about the similarities of complexity science & art: emergence, order & chaos, luck, and much more...Nancy Hillis & Bruce Sawhill talk to Jim about the commonalities & dynamics of complexity science & art: innovation & imitation, breaking rules, inseparability, phase transitions, combinatorics & restraints, aesthetics, process vs result orientation, simplicity, paradox, uncertainty, emergence, navigating the edge of order & chaos, known unknowns & unknown unknowns, making space for luck, and much more.Episode TranscriptMentions & Recommendations Nancy's Website & Blog Personal Airline Exchange Bruce's paper, Phase Transitions in Logic Networks Bruce's paper, Self-Organized Criticality and Complexity TheoryBruce Sawhill is CTO and Co-Founder of Personal Airline Exchange, a startup per-seat on-demand air travel service for short flights between small airports in extended urban areas. He earned his B.S. degree in Physics, his B.A. in Music (organ performance and composition), and his PhD in Physics all from Stanford University, He was a postdoc at the Santa Fe Institute, working with Chris Langton and Stuart Kauffman. Bruce is currently writing a book with his partner Nancy Hillis, MD on the connections between evolutionary biology, complex adaptive systems, and creativity in the arts. In addition to his CTO duties, he gives regular organ recitals and swims long distances in the ocean without a wetsuit. Bruce and Nancy make their family home in Santa Cruz, CA.Nancy Hillis, MD is an artist, speaker, Stanford-trained psychiatrist and author of the best-selling self-help book The Artist’s Journey: Bold Strokes To Spark Creativity. as well as The Artist's Journey Creativity Reflection Journal. Nancy guides artists to create their deepest, most authentic art through her signature approach, which combines art and psychiatry. She’s helped thousands of artists transform their work from the inside out, operating from the conviction that artistic creation has as much to do with psychology as it does with paint and canvas. Nancy studied under renowned psychiatrist, Irvin Yalom, MD at Stanford and has been featured in Inc. magazine and The New York Observer. Her book The Artist's Journey: Bold Strokes To Spark Creativity was named one of the Top 100 Creativity Books Of All Time by BookAuthority. Nancy lives in Santa Cruz, CA with her partner and daughter.