本期节目中，Jim 与 Forrest Landry 探讨了其小组方法及其扩展面临的挑战。他们讨论了研究小组流程的重要性、在旧结构中进行新事物尝试的困难、三种决策结构（共识、精英制和民主制）、每种结构的优缺点、如何将每种模型用作对其他两种模型的检验、将内部和外部工作视为独立、不信任投票、民主作为暂停共识的红色按钮、小型和大型治理流程之间的怪异谷、超过 200 人后出现的良好治理架构、如何让整个社区参与选择、分层治理架构作为复杂有机体、为什么新的加密货币、投票改革和其他增量改进误解了问题、低估了地球的价值、超越创造和利用利基、概述解决方案的特征、原型 B 作为理论-实践-理论循环等等。

🤔 **研究小组流程的重要性**：Landry 强调研究小组流程的重要性，认为它可以帮助我们更好地理解人类合作的机制，并找到更有效的方式来构建社会和组织。他认为，小组流程是构建未来社会的基础，因为它可以帮助我们克服传统治理结构的局限性，并找到新的、更有效的治理方式。

🧐 **三种决策结构的优缺点**：Landry 提出了三种决策结构：共识、精英制和民主制。他详细分析了每种结构的优缺点，并指出每种结构都有其适用范围。例如，共识适用于小型团队，精英制适用于需要快速决策的组织，而民主制适用于需要广泛参与的社会。

🤯 **超越增量改进，构建全新治理架构**：Landry 认为，目前的许多治理改革，例如新的加密货币和投票改革，都只是增量改进，它们并不能解决根本问题。他认为，我们需要从根本上重新思考治理架构，构建一个能够适应未来复杂挑战的全新架构。他将这种新的架构比喻为一个复杂的有机体，它包含多个层级，每个层级都有其独特的功能。

🚀 **原型 B：理论-实践-理论循环**：Landry 提出了一个名为“原型 B”的概念，它代表了一种理论-实践-理论的循环。他认为，通过不断地实践和反思，我们可以不断地改进我们的理论，并最终找到更有效的解决方案。他认为，原型 B 是一个重要的工具，它可以帮助我们构建一个更美好的未来。

🌎 **地球的价值**：Landry 强调了地球的价值，他认为我们必须超越仅仅利用地球资源的思维模式，而要从更深层次上理解地球的重要性。他认为，地球是人类赖以生存的基础，我们必须保护地球，并为子孙后代留下一片美好的家园。

Jim talks with Forrest Landry about his Small Group Method and the obstacles to scaling it up...Jim talks with Forrest Landry about his Small Group Method and the obstacles to scaling it up. They discuss why studying group processes is important, the difficulty of doing new things with old structures, 3 classes of decision-making structures (consensus, meritocracy, & democracy), advantages & disadvantages of each, how to use each model as a check against the other two, treating internal & external work as separate, votes of no confidence, democracy as a red button to suspend consensus, the uncanny valley between small- and large-scale governance process, a good governance architecture that emerges past 200 people, how to involve an entire community in choice-making, layered governance architecture as a complex organism, why new cryptocurrencies, voting reforms, & other incremental improvements misunderstand the problem, underestimating the value of the earth, moving beyond creating & exploiting niches, outlining the characteristics of a solution, proto-Bs as theory-practice-theory loops, and much more. Episode Transcript JRS EP31 - Forrest Landry on Building our Future JRS EP96 - Forrest Landry on Immanent Metaphysics: Part 1 JRS EP134 - Forrest Landry on Non-Relative Ethics Forrest's Website (https://mflb.com/) @ForrestLandry19 on Twitter "On the Nature of Human Assembly," by Forrest Landry The Rules for Rulers - YouTube Ephemeral Group Process (EGP)Forrest Landry is a philosopher, writer, researcher, scientist, engineer, craftsman, and teacher focused on metaphysics, the manner in which software applications, tools, and techniques influence the design and management of very large scale complex systems, and the thriving of all forms of life on this planet. Forrest is also the founder and CEO of Magic Flight, a third-generation master woodworker who found that he had a unique set of skills in large-scale software systems design. Which led him to work in the production of several federal classified and unclassified systems, including various FBI investigative projects, TSC, IDW, DARPA, the Library of Congress Congressional Records System, and many others.