The Jim Rutt Show 2024年07月17日
Currents 080: Joe Edelman and Ellie Hain on Rebuilding Meaning
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Jim与Joe Edelman和Ellie Hain探讨他们的新运动——重建意义,以及最近两次关于如何构建更好世界的演讲。他们讨论了构建更有意义生活的工具、意义的含义、探索虚空背后、排泄清单、激发意义的练习、连贯的多元主义、容器与意义、宗教如何失去根基、价值观表达、美学的重要性、使用语言学习模型提取意义轮廓、价值观与美德、网络乐观主义的清醒、空间的衰败、焦点从意义转向激励、漏斗、管道与空间、堆积陌生人对比创造空间、意义度量、意义卡片、空间列车、科学示例、卡尔·罗杰斯的同一性概念、设计理想的自我、传播信息等。

🔍 Joe Edelman在Couchsurfing.com开发基于意义的组织度量,并与Tristan Harris共同创立了人文技术中心,提出了“时间花得值”这一度量家族,被Facebook、Google和Apple的团队采纳。他致力于新的商业度量、设计方法和政治运动的哲学基础,核心思想是使人们的意义来源明确化,以便严格计算事物的意义与否。

🎨 Ellie Hain是一位艺术家、研究员和文化策略师,她为后工业时代创造新的想象和意识形态。她的工作聚焦于如何在这个时代找到和创造新的意义。

🧩 重建意义运动探讨了如何通过一系列工具和练习来激发生活的意义,包括理解意义的本质、探索虚空背后的深层含义,以及如何通过连贯的多元主义来构建更有包容性的社会。

📚 运动中还讨论了宗教如何失去了其原有的根基,以及我们如何能够通过价值观的表达和美学的重视来重新找到个人和集体的意义。

🚀 最后,他们探讨了如何通过设计理想的自我和传播信息来推动这一运动,以及如何使用语言学习模型来提取意义轮廓,从而更好地理解人们的价值观和美德。

Jim talks with Joe Edelman and Ellie Hain about their new movement, Rebuilding Meaning, and two recent talks introducing ideas towards a better world. They discuss tools for building toward more meaningful lives, the meaning of meaning, looking behind the void, the litany of shit, exercises in eliciting meaning, coherent pluralism, containers vs meanings, how religions lost their grounding, values articulacy, the importance of aesthetics, using language learning models to extract meaning profiles, values vs virtues, sobering up from internet optimism, the decay of spaces, when focus shifts from meaning to incentives, funnels, tubes, & spaces, piling up strangers vs creating spaces, metrics of meaning, meaning cards, space trains, the example of science, Carl Rogers's concept of congruence, designing good ideal selves, spreading the message, and much more. Episode Transcript Rebuilding Meaning (website) JRS EP34 - Joe Edelman on the Power of Values "Exit the Void: A Movement for Meaning," by Ellie Hain "Rebuilding Society on Meaning," by Joe Edelman A Hunter-Gatherer's Guide to the 21st Century: Evolution and the Challenges of Modern Life, by Heather E. Heying and Bret Weinstein JRS EP 173 - Hanzi Freinacht on Metamodern Self-HelpJoe Edelman developed the meaning-based organizational metrics at Couchsurfing.com, then co-founded the Center for Humane Technology with Tristan Harris, and coined the term “Time Well Spent” for a family of metrics adopted by teams at Facebook, Google, and Apple. Since then, he's worked on the philosophical underpinnings for new business metrics, design methods, and political movements. The central idea is to make people's sources of meaning explicit, so that how meaningful or meaningless things are can be rigorously accounted for. His previous career was in HCI and programming language design.Ellie Hain is an artist, researcher, and cultural strategist working on new imaginaries and ideologies for the post-industrial age.

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