本期Decoder节目邀请了GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke，探讨AI编码领域的最新进展和未来趋势。Dohmke分享了GitHub Copilot如何引领AI编码浪潮，以及面对Cursor等新兴平台的竞争，GitHub将如何定位自身。他深入剖析了AI技术对软件工程师角色演变的影响，并展望了AI在代码编写中的普及程度。此外，Dohmke还就GitHub作为微软旗下独立公司的运营情况发表了看法，并强调了AI领域竞争对于技术创新的重要性。文章还提及了OpenAI的GPT-5模型、微软和Meta在AI编码方面的布局，为读者提供了AI发展的前沿洞察。

🚀 GitHub Copilot引领AI编码潮流，但面对Cursor等新平台的竞争，GitHub正积极思考其在行业中的角色和未来发展方向。CEO Thomas Dohmke认为，AI领域需要竞争才能蓬勃发展。

💡 AI技术正在重塑软件工程师的角色，Dohmke预测AI将深刻影响代码编写的未来。他正在探索如何让开发者更舒适地使用AI进行“vibe coding”，即更直观、更具创造性的编码方式。

🏢 作为微软旗下的独立公司，GitHub的运营也面临挑战与机遇。Dohmke分享了在大型科技公司体系内保持创新活力的经验，并强调了保持独立性和竞争力的重要性。

📈 AI在代码编写中的应用日益广泛，有数据显示，部分微软代码已高达30%由AI撰写。Meta CEO扎克伯格也预测，未来18个月内，AI将编写Meta公司的大部分代码，预示着AI在软件开发领域的颠覆性潜力。

Welcome to Decoder! This is Alex Heath, your Thursday episode guest host and deputy editor at The Verge.

It’s AI coding week at Decoder. You just heard Casey Newton’s interview with the CEO behind Cursor, Michael Truell. Now, I have a conversation with GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke.

In many ways, GitHub Copilot set off the current AI coding boom. But since Thomas was last on Decoder a year ago, the rise of vibe coding has shifted the buzz to newer platforms like Cursor and Windsurf. As you’ll hear in our conversation, Thomas is thinking a lot about the competition, as well as GitHub’s role in the future of software development. 

It’s a good time to be having this conversation. Thomas has a bird’s-eye view of where the industry is headed, and I wanted to know how he thinks the role of a software engineer will keep changing with AI and when I’ll feel comfortable vibe coding myself.

This is Decoder after all, so I couldn’t have him on the show without also asking what life is like these days running GitHub as its own company within Microsoft.

If you’d like to read more on what we talked about in this episode, check out the links below:

Developers, Reinvented | ⁠Thomas Dohmke / GitHub⁠Developer Odyssey | ⁠Thomas Dohmke / GitHub⁠Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding, with Cursor’s Michael Truell | ⁠Decoder⁠GitHub CEO Thomas Dohmke says AI needs competition to thrive | ⁠⁠⁠Decoder⁠⁠⁠OpenAI’s new GPT-5 models announced early by GitHub | The VergeUp to 30 percent of some Microsoft code is now written by AI | ⁠The Verge⁠GitHub launches its AI app-making tool in preview | ⁠The Verge⁠Microsoft is getting ready for GPT-5 with a new Copilot smart mode | ⁠The Verge⁠Zuckerberg: AI will write most Meta code within 18 months | ⁠Engadget

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