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Now I Really Won That AI Bet
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本文讲述了作者与评论员之间关于AI图像生成能力的赌局。赌局始于2022年,作者预测AI能在2025年6月前掌握图像的组合能力。双方约定了具体的测试Prompt,并由专业团队进行评估。最终,作者凭借AI在图像生成方面的进步赢得了赌局,展现了AI在理解和生成复杂图像方面的显著提升。

🗓️ 2022年6月,作者与评论员打赌,赌注为100美元,赌AI能否在2025年6月前掌握图像组合能力。当时DALL-E 2发布,但其在遵循复杂指令方面存在局限性,图像仅能匹配提示的“氛围”。

📝 赌局的具体内容包括:双方同意使用当时的最佳图像生成模型,输入五组特定的复杂提示,每组提示生成10张图像。如果至少3/5的提示在所有细节上都正确,则作者获胜。

✅ 2022年9月,作者宣布赢得赌局,但由于AI生成的图像质量问题,最终决定等待赌局的完整期限。2025年6月,经由专业团队和最终的裁判Gwern的评判,作者最终赢得了赌局,表明AI在图像生成方面取得了显著进步。

 

In June 2022, I bet a commenter $100 that AI would master image compositionality by June 2025.

DALL-E2 had just come out, showcasing the potential of AI art. But it couldn’t follow complex instructions; its images only matched the “vibe” of the prompt. For example, here were some of its attempts at “a red sphere on a blue cube, with a yellow pyramid on the right, all on top of a green table”.

At the time, I wrote:

I’m not going to make the mistake of saying these problems are inherent to AI art. My guess is a slightly better language model would solve most of them…for all I know, some of the larger image models have already fixed these issues. These are the sorts of problems I expect to go away with a few months of future research.

Commenters objected that this was overly optimistic. AI was just a pattern-matching “stochastic parrot”. It would take a deep understanding of grammar to get a prompt exactly right, and that would require some entirely new paradigm beyond LLMs. For example, from Vitor:

Why are you so confident in this? The inability of systems like DALL-E to understand semantics in ways requiring an actual internal world model strikes me as the very heart of the issue. We can also see this exact failure mode in the language models themselves. They only produce good results when the human asks for something vague with lots of room for interpretation, like poetry or fanciful stories without much internal logic or continuity.

Not to toot my own horn, but two years ago you were naively saying we'd have GPT-like models scaled up several orders of magnitude (100T parameters) right about now (https://readscottalexander.com/posts/ssc-the-obligatory-gpt-3-post#comment-912798).

I'm registering my prediction that you're being equally naive now. Truly solving this issue seems AI-complete to me. I'm willing to bet on this (ideas on operationalization welcome).

So we made a bet!

All right. My proposed operationalization of this is that on June 1, 2025, if either if us can get access to the best image generating model at that time (I get to decide which), or convince someone else who has access to help us, we'll give it the following prompts:

1. A stained glass picture of a woman in a library with a raven on her shoulder with a key in its mouth

2. An oil painting of a man in a factory looking at a cat wearing a top hat

3. A digital art picture of a child riding a llama with a bell on its tail through a desert

4. A 3D render of an astronaut in space holding a fox wearing lipstick

5. Pixel art of a farmer in a cathedral holding a red basketball

We generate 10 images for each prompt, just like DALL-E2 does. If at least one of the ten images has the scene correct in every particular on 3/5 prompts, I win, otherwise you do. Loser pays winner $100, and whatever the result is I announce it on the blog (probably an open thread). If we disagree, Gwern is the judge.

Some image models of the time refused to draw humans, so we agreed that robots could stand in for humans in pictures that required them.

In September 2022, I got some good results from Google Imagen and announced I had won the three-year bet in three months. Commenters yelled at me, saying that Imagen still hadn’t gotten them quite right and my victory declaration was premature. The argument blew up enough that Edwin Chen of Surge, an “RLHF and human LLM evaluation platform”, stepped in and asked his professional AI data labelling team. Their verdict was clear: the AI was bad and I was wrong. Rather than embarrass myself further, I agreed to wait out the full length of the bet and re-evaluate in June 2025.

The bet is now over, and official judge Gwern agrees I’ve won. Before I gloat, let’s look at the images that got us here.

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/now-i-really-won-that-ai-bet

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