少点错误 2024年07月12日
Moving away from physical continuity
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文章探讨了在克隆实验中,人们对于“原版”与“复制品”的界定及其心理依赖。通过黑箱克隆汽车的思维实验,作者提出了以因果关系流来定义“同一性”,挑战了传统对“原版”与“复制品”的认知。

🔍 克隆对象时,人们常将保持物理连续性的称为“原版”,其余为“复制品”。但在克隆人时,人们关心原版的去向,这种关心在连续性不明显时(如睡眠)显得多余。

🚗 以黑箱克隆汽车为例,内部可以明确区分原版和复制品,但外部无法得知。通过量子随机数发生器操作,使得外部无法判断哪辆是复制品。

🔄 作者提出以因果关系流来定义“同一性”。例如,通过检查哪辆车的窗户是由输入车辆因果下游打开的,从而判断两辆车是否为“同一”辆。

🌪 文章指出,未来两辆车可能会保持相似,也可能因外部因素(如车祸)而不同。它们的演变因外部世界(如驾驶员)而异。

Published on July 12, 2024 5:05 AM GMT

In thought experiments about cloning objects, people often call the object which maintained physical continuity "original" and other "clone". This seems like just a naming, but when experiments talk about cloning a person, people tend to care where their original version is. This feels dodgy in cases when person doesn't even feel their continuity (in sleep, for example), so I think that is a bit overvalued.

Being one and the same

Let's take a black box cloning cars - perhaps taking the required set of details, correcting them on level of atoms to be indistinguishable from input car and constructing the second car. Inside the box, it is pretty obvious which car is original and which is a clone, but on the outside one can only learn that from box specification.

We can add an operation inside the box: let workers use a quantum RNG, and swap the result cars iff the random bit was 1. Then, person on the outside cannot tell which car is a clone. One could say "I don't know that, however there is 50% that cloned car is left one and 50% that it's right one instead"; I'd respond "the question is ill-formed since your definition of original doesn't really apply to this case".

I prefer to define being same by causal flows. For instance, let's open a window in the car before putting it into the black box and check which result car is causally downstream of input one - that is, has window opened. Once we see that both products have their windows opened, we can name both same[1], and same as the input.

  1. ^

    that said, in future the cars might continue to be approximately same or very similar, or might not if one gets in a crash; their evolutions are different because of the outer world (drivers, for instance)



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