本文采访了《舒适危机》的作者Michael Easter，探讨了现代社会中舒适对身心健康的影响。Michael分享了他的成长经历，包括父母的困境和个人与酒精的斗争。他阐述了我们如何陷入“舒适危机”，现代社会消除许多不适，反而导致了健康问题。文章还讨论了挑战自我、科技对无聊的消除、以及在自然中寻找意义的重要性。最后，探讨了rucking这项活动带来的身心益处，以及如何应对现代社会带来的挑战。

😔 Michael Easter分享了他的成长经历，包括父母的酗酒问题以及父亲的离家，这些经历影响了他自身与酒精的斗争。他最终意识到，现代社会中对舒适的追求，可能导致了许多身心健康问题。

🤯 作者认为，现代社会的发展消除了许多生活中的不适，例如无聊，而这反而对我们的身心健康带来负面影响。文章强调了挑战自我、体验不适的重要性。

🌳 Michael在文章中分享了他在一次麋鹿狩猎中的深刻体验，这次经历改变了他对生死的看法，并让他认识到，幸福可以在没有现代舒适的环境中存在。他认为，我们天生就适应压力，但同时也需要承担起应对舒适的责任。

💪 文章还讨论了rucking这项活动，它结合了负重行走和徒步旅行，具有多种身心益处。作者提供了关于rucking的建议，包括理想的负重、背包类型和其他注意事项。

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Michael Easter is the author of the bestseller, The Comfort Crisis. He’s also a journalist, Professor of Journalism at UNLV, and a leading voice on how humans can integrate modern science and evolutionary wisdom for improved health, meaning, and performance in life and at work. In this episode, Michael first talks about his upbringing, including his parents' struggle with alcoholism, his father leaving when he was young, and how these things impacted Michael's own struggle with alcoholism. He explains what led to his realization that we are in a “crisis of comfort” and how the removal of many of life’s discomforts through advancements in modern society may actually be a leading contributor to many of our most urgent physical and mental health issues. He explains the benefits of challenging oneself and the immense positive carryover which can come from doing things we find difficult. He describes the consequences of technology like smartphones, which have effectively eliminated boredom—a discomfort that comes with many benefits. He tells the story of a profound experience at an elk hunt that changed Michael’s thoughts around life and death, how happiness can thrive in places without all of the modern comforts of the West, and why we’re hardwired for stress and what to do about it. They conclude with a conversation around rucking, an activity with many physical and mental benefits.

We discuss:

The value in doing something difficult [2:30]; Michael’s upbringing with a single parent and alcoholism [5:45]; Michael’s battle with alcoholism and his experience with quitting drinking [10:00]; Origin of the idea that we are in a crisis of comfort [20:30]; The death of boredom in modern society [28:45]; The benefits of boredom [36:00]; The value of disconnecting and being in nature [39:15]; Changing the dynamic of how we think about food and the story of Peter’s daughter’s first hunt [43:45]; How a profound experience at an elk hunt changed Michael’s thoughts about life and death [49:15]; How happiness can thrive in places without all of the modern comforts of the West [57:15]; Why we’re hardwired for stress, and the responsibility that comes with our level of comfort [1:05:30]; How perspective on the timescale of our lives in relation to history can impart positive changes [1:14:00]; The benefit of challenging oneself and the positive carryover it can have [1:19:45]; The many benefits of rucking [1:28:45]; Tips for rucking: ideal load, type of pack, and other considerations [1:38:00]; Parting thoughts on the downside of comfort and benefits of difficult things [1:43:00]; and More.

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