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In Search Of /r/petfree
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文章探讨了Reddit上/r/petfree社区成员对宠物的厌恶情绪,并将其与“恐音症”进行类比,指出这种厌恶可能源于日常生活中反复接触到的刺激,以及由此产生的负面情绪和思维模式。文章认为,这种现象并非个例,类似的情绪也存在于其他群体中,例如对汽车、特定人群等的厌恶。作者强调,这并非否认这些群体所面对问题的真实性,而是试图理解这种极端情绪的成因。

🤯作者观察到/r/petfree社区成员对宠物表现出强烈的厌恶,这种厌恶源于对宠物相关的各种问题的抱怨,例如宠物在公共场所造成的卫生问题、宠物伤人事件、以及饲主对宠物的过度“溺爱”等。

👂作者将这种对宠物的厌恶与“恐音症”进行类比,指出两者在情绪反应和思维模式上的相似性,即都表现出对特定刺激的强烈负面情绪,以及由此产生的过度思考和负面联想。

🤔文章认为,这种极端情绪并非个例,在其他群体中也可能存在,例如对汽车、特定人群等的厌恶。这种现象的产生可能源于日常生活中反复接触到的刺激,以及由此产生的负面情绪和思维模式。

💡作者强调,这种类比并非否认这些群体所面对问题的真实性,而是试图理解这种极端情绪的成因。作者认为,理解这种情绪背后的机制,有助于我们更好地应对和处理类似的社会现象。

Ask Redditors what’s the worst subreddit, and a few names always come up. /r/atheism and /r/childfree are unpopular, but if I read them with an open mind, I always end up sympathetic - neither lifestyle is persecuted in my particular corner of society, but the Redditors there have usually been through some crazy stuff, and I don’t begrudge them a place to vent. The one that really floors me is /r/petfree.

The denizens of /r/petfree don’t like pets. Their particular complaints vary, but most common are:

These are all valid complaints. But the people on /r/petfree go a little far:

Not really all in a row - I picked the worst from about two pages’ worth.

These people are crazy. So let’s return to our usual question - what kind of crazy? Which DSM-recognized disorder do they have?

One easy answer would be cynophobia, the pathological fear of dogs. I don’t think this is true. The people on /r/petfree mostly don’t seem afraid, unless they’re sublimating it in some really weird way. And I know people with actual disorder-grade dog phobia, and they’re not angry about it. Many of them are apologetic, or agree dogs are cute, or at least don’t spend all their time fuming about the existence of dogs. You would really have to stretch the definition of phobia here. You can do it - witness “homophobia” for people with normal political or religious objections to homosexuality - but it would feel wrong.

The condition this reminds me of, more than any other, is misophonia.

Misophonics - and I say this as one of them - are angry. As I discuss in the link above, the anger seems more characteristic of the condition than the sensory sensitivity. If they go deaf, they’ll still be angry that people are making the noises they hate, even though they can’t hear them. Confronted with the noises they hate in a context where they don’t know it’s the noise they hate, it won’t bother them. I think of misophonia (again, explained at the link - the rest of this post won’t make sense without it) as a superstructure of anger/trauma/phobia/rumination built on top of a foundation of otherwise-non-disabling noise sensitivity. This isn’t to belittle misophonics’ problems - they genuinely hate the noise exactly as much as they say they do, and there’s no way for them to “turn it off” or “just get over it”. But the condition only enters full bloom when you take it from the neurological context of noise to the social context of people making noise.

Freud called intellectualization a defense mechanism. But at least for me, it functions as more of an overflow. When I’m at my worst - low on sleep, off all meds, forgot all earplugs - I go from hating whatever noise I’m hearing, to hating the fabric of civilization. I ruminate on crazy theories of how everything about modern urban life has been designed by crooks and liars to annoy me personally, and who we have to tax/ban/imprison to make it stop.

I look at some of those /r/petfree posts. There’s the one where someone said his friend posted a meme about how much she loved her dog, and now he “can’t ever go over to her house”. There’s the one where somebody asked a reasonable question about dog grooming on a hygiene sub, and the poster said that THEY HAVE TO INFEST EVERYTHING 😩😥🤢. I look at stuff like that and think - yeah, if there was a subreddit like this about noise, I’d post on it.

Someone - I think it was Philosophy Bear - once asked why a certain type of conservative treats it as axiomatic that order and low crime are the fundamental public goods. If a city has a few more muggings than usual, why is that automatically worse than the city having a few more families on food stamps than usual, or a little worse traffic than usual? This was great food for thought - I agree with the conservatives that public order seems somehow more fundamental, but I agree with Philosophy Bear that this wouldn’t feel obvious to an alien observer.

Since then I’ve been noticing how much of politics seems driven by different people having rumination clouds / purity instict violations about different kinds of omnipresent aspects of public life. For me it’s noise. For the /r/petfree people it’s dogs. For the /r/fuckcars people, it’s cars. For what was once r/TheDonald, it’s brown people (am I joking on this last one? absolutely not). I’m not asserting that none of these are real problems or that you can’t have rational objections to them. I’m just saying, one less-than-perfectly-mentally-well person to another, that I can see myself in you.

I’m sure this person doesn’t actually want to kill himself, but what even is the thought process that makes people reach for these metaphors? Why is it natural to discuss economically inefficient policies in such personal terms?

I think when you have something you get exposed to every day, plus starting variation in which things mildly annoy people, you have the opportunity to get the kind of cloud of mutually-self reinforcing triggers and automatic negative thoughts that sustain a misophonia-like condition. Then, depending on their levels of intellectualization and paranoia, some people will develop broader theories of why they’re right to hate these things and their all-consuming unhappiness accurately reflects an all-consuming evil in society. It’s a miracle that the /r/petfree people haven’t developed some word that cashes out to basically meaning “the petarchy”.

This is the point in an essay like this where I’m supposed to say that this is a Growing Problem Fueled By Social Media - that the existence of communities for these people validate and intensify their emotions and make everything worse. But I’m not feeling it - all my misophonic symptoms happened before I talked to anyone about them, and removing every other misophonic in the world wouldn’t improve things a bit.

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