Published on May 5, 2025 10:14 PM GMT
Epistemic status: This is an unpolished draft that needs more research, but a type of research I'm not good at, I guess. I rather post it now and see if it resonates.
There could be many entities around us that are conscious without us noticing. This is because we don't have a clear, testable theory of consciousness. How would know if the Pando forest is conscious[1]? Consciousness is still a muddled concept and has many competing theories that cover multiple layers of abstraction and involve multiple aspects or attributes entities must have to be considered conscious. Here, I am interested in some aspects of consciousness common in many theories of consciousness[2] and want to illustrate how some unusual entities may actually possess them.
- Perception: The ability to detect, interpret, and respond to stimuli from the environment.Perceptual Processing and Attention: The filtering and focusing mechanism that determines which stimuli are prioritised for further processing.Stable Awareness Patterns: Sustained cognitive focus and recognition of consistent patterns within perceived information.[3]Self-Perception: The capacity to reflect on and recognise oneself as a distinct entity with unique characteristics.Response to Events: The enactment of actions or changes in behavior in reaction to perceived events or stimuli.(Episodic) Memory Formation: The process of encoding, storing, and retrieving personal experiences and events.Intentionality and Goals: The conscious direction of thoughts and actions toward achieving desired outcomes.Learning and Adaptation: The ability to incorporate new information and experiences to modify behaviors and understanding.Communication: The exchange of information using verbal, written, or non-verbal methods to convey meaning.Expressing Emotions: The articulation or display of feelings through various expressive means.Theory of Mind: The capability to attribute mental states to oneself and others, understanding that others have perspectives and intentions distinct from one's own.
It turns out that many aspects of consciousness can be found in entities that are very unlike human beings.
This post was originally inspired by a discussion wheter LLMs could be conscious. I see the behavioral analogs in LLM outputs, but had trouble reconciling the rsulting claims with some elements that I intuitively felt necessary for consciousness. I do think the structures that give rise to consciousness in humans have at least partial functionally analogs in other agentic entities such as LLMs. But to be more thorugh, lets analyse the presence of a comprehensive set of attributes of consciousness in the following entities:
- Persons: Humans possess cognitive abilities that allow for independent thought, perception, decision-making, and interaction with their environment and others.Countries: Nations are complex socio-political entities with collective identities, governance systems, and mechanisms to interact both domestically and internationally.Hofstadter's Anthill (see page 164): An ant colony functions as a decentralized system where collaborative behavior emerges from simple interactions of individual ants of limited consciousness, resulting in collective decision-making and adaptation. This hypothetical entity is offered as an aid to intuition that distributed entities can be conscious without the constituent elements being conscious.Large Language Models: LLMs that use vast datasets to interactively process and generate human-like text, performing tasks based on patterns and learned representations.
Attribute | Persons | Countries | Large Language Models | |
Unit of processing | neurons | citizens | ants | artificial neurons |
Perception | Sensory organs (eyes, ears, etc.) detect stimuli, processed by the nervous system. | Institutions gather information about events via intelligence and news services. | Ants collect environmental information via pheromones and interactions. | Textual input data as stimuli. |
Perceptual Processing/ Attention | Brain filters subconsciously, focuses attention on certain stimuli. | Reporters select news, movement formation, virality, decision-makers prioritize information. | Ants collectively focus on specific tasks through decentralized processing. | LLM attention mechanisms. |
Stable Awareness Patterns | Neural networks support persistent awareness in global workspace. | Issues gain national focus, becoming part of public discourse and policy making. | Stable pattern emerge from the collective behavior of ants. | Coherent responses through trained representations. |
Self-Perception | Arises from higher-order brain functions. | National identity shaped by history and culture. Communicating the right to exist as a country. | (only for Hofstadter’s ant hill): The colony has a name - Aunt Hillary - and many quirks. | Lacks self-awareness; processes input based on training data without self-reference. |
Response to Events | Actions are executed based on decision-making. | Policy changes and diplomatic or military actions. | Collective actions respond to environmental changes. | Generates responses based on input data and learned patterns. |
(Episodic) Memory Formation | Experiences encoded in the hippocampus for later retrieval. | Maintained through records and cultural narratives. | Colony retains memory through the distribution of tasks and pheromone trails. | No memory (unless RAGed in); past interactions may train new model updates. |
Intentionality and Goals | Personal desires and decision-making processes. | Goals are set through political leadership or implicit in national interests. | Emergent goals arise from the ant colony's collective survival needs. | Goals reflect training data. Agentic systems may reflect engineered goals, |
Learning and Adaptation | Neural plasticity allows individuals to learn from positive or aversive states. | Countries implement policy changes and adapt to changing internal and external circumstances such as war or famine. | The collection of pheromone trails represent where food sources are available and which places are dangerous. | Learns patterns from large datasets, adapting responses accordingly (batch learning). |
Communication | Verbal, written, and non-verbal forms. Leads to matching mental representations. | Diplomatic and media communications express policies and international expectations and are recognized by other countries. | (in Hofstadter’s anthill) Aunt Hillary communicates through ant trail patterns. | All text is communication with the user. The user understands patterns generated by the LLM. |
Expressing Emotions | Emotions expressed through physical cues. | National sentiment conveyed through symbolic actions. Spontaneous public responses. | (in Hofstadter’s anthill) Aunt Hillary has quirks and needs psychological support. | Unclear |
Theory of Mind | Ability to attribute mental states to others. | Diplomatic understanding of other countries' intentions. | Unclear | Can represent and communicate the user’s intentions. |
Countries
If countries have self-consciousness, it is independent of the self-consciousness of its members. Countries frequently state their right to exist and this is often recognized by other countries. This requires a self-model. This is also obvious from the theory of mind of countries: Countries can model other countries as independent agents and negotiate on that level. Contrary to claims that the intentions are purely a result of the individual's goals, it turns out that a countries intentions can be independent from the self-consciousness of a country’s citizens. There are many cases where the official agents (the voice) of a country expressed recognitions of statehood that was different from the personal preferences of the individual speakers, including in cases where these were representatives of the state in questions (examples are the Yugoslavia breakup and the Spanish civil war).
Gradual Group Consciousness
There is a corollary: Group consciousness must occur gradually in groups of increasing size.
There is a smooth transition from individuals to small groups to organisations and countries. At which point does consciousness appear? I think this continuum implie that there is no definite point. I think this is comparable to human consciousness development: At which point in the development of a child does consciousness start? Or at least: At which point does self-consciousness start?
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I don't know if the Pando forest is conscious. Some of the listed attributes are just not known and not easily testable for such entities. But I think it is a good example of a non-trivial entity that might be conscious.
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I compiled attributes from different theories and also asked ChatGPT for additional suggestions.
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Discuss