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What Physically Distinguishes a Brain with False Beliefs Using a Swimming Pool Example
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本文探讨了大脑如何记忆泳池深度,以及180cm和200cm的记忆差异如何影响人的行为和情绪。作者通过自身在泳池的经历,结合神经生物学知识,提出了一个模型,解释了不同深度记忆如何激活不同的神经元和神经递质,进而影响人的安全感和恐惧感。文章还探讨了在错误深度记忆下,可能导致溺水的神经机制,强调了神经递质如去甲肾上腺素在产生焦虑感中的作用。文章旨在以原子和细胞的互动来描述日常情境,并欢迎读者提出批评和改进意见。

🧠 记忆差异:大脑对180cm和200cm泳池深度的记忆,会激活略有不同的神经元。虽然大部分神经元相同,但差异神经元与过去的其他神经回路相连,进而影响情绪。

⚠️ 危险与安全区:大脑会将泳池划分为“危险区”和“安全区”。进入“危险区”时,不仅空间神经元被激活,杏仁核(负责恐惧处理)也会被激活;而在“安全区”,前额叶皮层则会抑制过度焦虑。

🧪 神经递质的影响:在危险区,谷氨酸快速释放,向杏仁核传递信号,去甲肾上腺腺素增加警觉性,多巴胺增强逃避动机;在安全区,血清素占主导地位,减少焦虑,内啡肽降低应激反应。

🏊‍♀️ 溺水风险的神经机制:如果实际深度为200cm,但大脑记忆为180cm,可能导致溺水。此时,“空间”神经元被激活,将脚触底和头在水上的画面联系起来。但如果去甲肾上腺素不足,可能无法产生足够的焦虑感,增加溺水风险。

Published on April 24, 2025 12:01 AM GMT

Question the article attempts to answer: How does a brain that remembered a pool depth of 180cm differ from a brain that remembered 200cm? And how is this causally connected to a scenario where I'm drowning in a pool because physically in my brain there was a difference in... what? (a difference from the universe where I remembered the height as 200cm and was afraid)

My motivation for writing this article: I was in a swimming pool and noticed a non-obvious pattern in the moment about how my lack of knowledge about a depression in the pool affects my motivations. In this article, I want to create my best formalization of the model and see where this predictive model transfers to other cases. An additional goal is to ground the model maximally to acquire simple associations in memory. The model is falsifiable (testable).

Author's knowledge status: I'm reading 5 books on neurobiology from scratch, a couple of popular science books, and watching videos. I'm not an expert, and this article is my attempt at rough formalization of the question. I acknowledge that the model may be incorrect in places (for calibration, I've consulted with DeepSeek). I'm not postulating what's written below as true patterns, as is usually the case in articles. Please consider this when reading. Criticism and model refinement in the comments are welcome.

Article accuracy verification status: I tested the theses from the article against DeepSeek. Those whom I asked to proofread didn't provide detailed comments.

Background: Swimming Pool I visited a new swimming pool and started swimming in circles. I can swim, but I experience stress anticipating that if I run out of strength or disrupt my swimming technique, I might involuntarily sink underwater, water would get into my ears, and my eyes would sting badly, as in the past—significant stress, but the biggest stress of course is if water gets into my nose or throat, because it would be unexpected. Fear of drowning.

Therefore, I really wanted to avoid submerging my head underwater. I walked inside the pool along the edge and developed a model that since my feet reached the bottom, it meant that opposite a certain point near the wall, it was safe to stop swimming and hope that I would feel the bottom with my feet

This was an involuntary, automatic, wordless generalization, which turned out to be false—what proved false was the assumed distance from the water surface to the bottom at a certain point.
 

From a distance, the bottom appeared uniform to me (I have poor eyesight)

However, at some point, a "pit" appeared

I decided that the bottom was uniform because I was standing in a place where it was uniform, and made a false generalization

When I noticed that the pool bottom in a specific area went below my height, my predictions changed, and now when shifting attention to area Б of the pool, I began to feel unease. Before observing the changed height, I felt calm about both areas A and Б.

Increased height Б -> unease in Jan's brain when modeling that the body moves to Б

(when changing the expected height of Б, unease increases)

The situation seems ordinary, simple—it falls into my category of "an inaccurate map led to false expectations."

I thought this would be a suitable simple example to try to describe the situation not through narratives about maps, expectations, predictions.

What if we try to describe this as "collection of atoms 1 moves toward A, collection of atoms 2 moves toward Б"? There are atoms that make up my body, my brain, and the pool.

I will try to describe this situation in its final form exclusively through the interaction of clusters of atoms, or cells.

My expectations, my vague image of the pool, the height of the bottom when directing attention to these sides, change the state of my neurons in the brain

So, my current model

Everyday description: I pay attention to the figure 180 cm (pool bottom height) and "connect" it with the pool height at a specific location

At the cellular level: Activation of many neurons (membrane depolarizes, ion channels open, ions redistribute, binding with ligands occurs, ...)

The same neurons are activated that model space[1] (pool) and the concept of numbers (180)

The number of activated neurons will be considered finite (and unknown)

We can expect that in the second when the memorization of the figure 180 was occurring and the mental modeling of how much the pool bottom is below the water level, we would see on a hypothetical activity of neurons a picture like this

(brain neurons forming connections in a petri dish. source)

Neurons that usually activate for "180cm" and neurons in the circuit that usually activate for "modeling bottom height" with their processes create connections where there were none before

2) Everyday description:

I predict that since the height is 180, my feet will reach the pool bottom if I stop swimming. I won't suffocate and won't experience stress. I "believe" the sign at the pool. Stress doesn't occur.

At the cellular level:

My "spatial neurons" being active give me the feeling of a "built spatial model of the pool." Previously, I "divided" the pool model into pieces - "dangerous zone" and "safe zone."

(when activating "dangerous" neurons, there's a different reaction than for "safe")

How does the processing of "dangerous" and "safe" zones differ? (model may be incorrect)

Neuron activation:

When entering a zone marked as "dangerous," not only spatial neurons are excited, but also the amygdala, which is responsible for fear processing.

In the "safe" zone, predominantly the prefrontal cortex is activated, which suppresses excessive anxiety through inhibitory neurons.

Neurotransmitters:

Dangerous zone:

Safe zone:

Role of adrenal glands:

When perceiving danger, the hypothalamus activates the pituitary gland, which releases ACTH affecting the adrenal glands → adrenal glands release:

In the safe zone, the parasympathetic system inhibits the release of stress hormones → the body returns to a state of rest.

What does the division into "dangerous pool zone" and "safe zone" provide

Such a division allows the brain to quickly respond to threats (through the amygdala and noradrenaline) and maintain calm in safe conditions (thanks to the PFC and serotonin).


General model predictions:

From this model, we can predict that depending on which category a part of the pool falls into, the following will depend:

More specific predictions:

What physically in my brain should differ so that I don't drown

Imagine that I started drowning in a universe where I remembered the pool height as 180 cm, but it's actually 200.

If there's not enough noradrenaline, will there be no anxiety?

Not always. Even with abundantly released noradrenaline, the feeling of anxiety may not be present because:

That is, several conditions must be met, not just "a lot of noradrenaline."

One way or another, the chemical cocktail of hormones created an unpleasant sensation. And the motivation to relax and stop swimming in the "180" zone will be based on how much noradrenaline and other neurotransmitters are currently on the receptors, and the receptors are working as they should to create this unpleasant sensation. The willingness to relax in the pool (and drown) will depend on its presence.

Conclusions:

Simplified answer to the original question:

The brain with "180cm" differs from the brain with "200cm" by:


Thank you for reading. I have goals for why I write, check them out in my profile. I am a rationalist and value the accuracy of beliefs. I am glad if my models are refined, criticism is welcome. This article has a Google Doc version where you can conveniently highlight flaws in the article with color and leave comments. This will affect the accuracy of future articles.

If you've seen errors in the article and are annoyed that a novice in the topic is writing - I don't have 10 years to study, and some goals related to attracting attention, I want to accomplish faster, so I write. Besides, I represent a system of reasoning that shifts the "acceptable level." If you're interested in me writing with the same general principle but more accurately - contact me and let's cooperate.

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    Claude writes “Serotonin does not “dominate” in safe zones - its action is complex and depends on the type of receptors.”



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