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Bluesky在GitHub发布提案,为用户提供是否允许其帖子和数据用于生成式AI训练等的选项。CEO Jay Graber称此举是为创建管理数据抓取的新标准,类似robots.txt文件。该提案引发用户不同反应,Molly White认为是好提案,但也指出依赖抓取者尊重用户意愿的弱点。

🎯Bluesky发布提案,让用户决定帖子和数据的使用

💡创建类似robots.txt的新标准来管理数据抓取

👀提案引发用户不同反应,Molly White认为有弱点

Social network Bluesky recently published a proposal on GitHub outlining new options it could give users to indicate whether they want their posts and data to be scraped for things like generative AI training and public archiving.

CEO Jay Graber discussed the proposal earlier this week, while on-stage at South by Southwest, but it attracted fresh attention on Friday night, after she posted about it on Bluesky. Some users reacted with alarm to the company’s plans, which they saw as a reversal of Bluesky’s previous insistence that it won’t sell user data to advertisers and won’t train AI on user posts.

“Oh, hell no!” the user Sketchette wrote. “The beauty of this platform was the NOT sharing of information. Especially gen AI. Don’t you cave now.”

Graber replied that generative AI companies are “already scraping public data from across the web,” including from Bluesky, since “everything on Bluesky is public like a website is public.” So she said Bluesky is trying to create a “new standard” to govern that scraping, similar to the robots.txt file that websites use to communicate their permissions to web crawlers.

Debates about AI training and copyright have dragged robots.txt into the spotlight, among other things highlighting the fact that it’s not legally enforceable. Bluesky frames its proposed standard as one that would have a similar “mechanism and expectations,” providing “a machine-readable format, which good actors are expected to abide, and does carry ethical weight, but is not legally enforceable.”

Under the proposal, users of the Bluesky app, or other apps that use the underlying ATProtocol, could go into their settings and allow or disallow the usage of their Bluesky data across four categories: generative AI, protocol bridging (i.e., connecting different social ecosystems), bulk datasets, and web archiving (such as the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine).

If a user indicates that they don’t want their data used to train generative AI, the proposal says, “Companies and research teams building AI training sets are expected to respect this intent when they see it, either when scraping websites, or doing bulk transfers using the protocol itself.”

Molly White, who writes the Citation Needed newsletter and Web3 is Going Just Great blog, described this as “a good proposal,” and said it was “weird to see people flaming BlueSky for it,” since it’s not so much “welcoming in AI scraping” but rather “trying to add a consent signal to allow users to communicate preferences for the scraping that is already happening.”

“I think the weakness with this and [Creative Commons’] similar proposal for ‘preference signals’ is that they rely on scrapers to respect these signals out of some desire to be good actors,” White continued. “We’ve already seen some of these companies blow right past robots.txt or pirate material to scrape.”

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