My guest is Dr. Richard Schwartz, Ph.D., therapist, author, and founder of Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy. We discuss how IFS views the mind as a collection of parts, each shaped by different life experiences—both good and bad, including trauma. To demonstrate how IFS works, Dr. Schwartz guides Dr. Huberman and you, the listener, through an example IFS session. We also explore how IFS and body awareness can help break harmful thought and behavior patterns, promote emotional healing, and build healthier relationships.
Read the full episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.
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Timestamps
00:00:00 Dr. Richard Schwartz
00:02:11 Internal Family Systems (IFS), Self & Parts
00:07:23 Sponsors: BetterHelp & David Protein
00:09:44 Trauma & Parts: Exiles, Roles, Critic, Managers, Firefighters
00:15:32 Frustration & Anger, Surrender & Perspective
00:19:35 Feelings, Curiosity & Self-Exploration, Protecting Other Parts
00:29:35 Exploration of Inner Frustration, Judgement, Firefighters, Protectors
00:40:04 Titanium Teddy Bear, The Self & Curiosity, Tool: The 8 C’s & Self
00:46:41 Sponsors: AG1 & Wealthfront
00:49:24 IFS Therapy, Self-Exploration
00:53:47 Role Confusion, Conflict, Self & Clarity; Legacy Burdens
01:00:26 Cognitive vs Somatic Feelings; Tools: Localize Body Feeling, Curiosity
01:04:11 IFS & Psychedelics, Ketamine, Big Self, Journal Retractions
01:11:18 Early Morning, Breathwork, Exiles & Healing
01:13:53 Sponsor: Function
01:15:41 Shame, Racism, Protectors & Carrying Burden, Compassion
01:21:29 Unhealthy Romantic Relationships, Child-Parent Relationship
01:27:06 Therapist, Self-Exploration, Protectors & Introduction to Self
01:31:08 Tool: Questions for a Self-Exploration of Internal Protectors
01:39:30 Writing, Forming New Relationships with Parts, Leading with Self
01:42:51 Protectors, Managers, Firefighters, Suicidal & Addiction Behaviors
01:48:37 Overworking, Fear, Mortality
01:54:35 Technology & Distraction, Exiles, Worthlessness
01:58:58 Psychiatry, Medicine, New Ideas
02:02:58 Culture & Expanding Problems, Activism & Self
02:10:39 Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow & Reviews, Sponsors, YouTube Feedback, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter
